Jørn Wildt

Hi guys,

I'm the maintainer of feproc & FormExpress - and I have for a long time, wanted to take a look at pagesetter. Just installed v5.1.0beta :) - and see there's something called Guppy - that is intended to turn into a module sometime, and it handles HTML forms for pagesetter.

I'm wondering what Guppy does, that FormExpress cannot do?
The main reason I'm asking is that I always hate when devs make unnecessarily competing solutions - so my hope is that FormExpress can fullfill the needs that Guppy does - and thus be even more versatile and hopefully one day, good enough, so it can be included in the Core PN - as "The" HTML Forms tool :)

- Guppy handles grid-based data automatically via a callback system. See the interface for setting up publication types for an example.

- Guppy handles hierarchical data with a tree view. See the category setup for an example.

- Guppy has HTMLArea built-in

- Guppy has the calender date picker built-in

- Guppy is XML based and (in my opinion) thus has an easier way of creating forms

- and document uploaded is being added to Guppy

Sounds very interesting.

In regards to Document uploading - I'm hoping a common "document/image/file" upload method could be found - currently I use ew_filemanager - which is just a file-handler - and thus works for everything - and then modules simply has to look through it's folders to use the files it wants to use - without handling the files themselves - and thus enabling several modules to share same documents in an easy manner.

Looking forward to looking at Guppy - and see if agree on the "easier" part ;) - perhaps the two modules could be merged sometime (unless they are too differently built) so the features the formexpress/feproc combo gives, still exists - or perhaps guppy already supports feproc - well feproc does not (yet) support showing guppy forms - but perhaps it should? IMHO adding the ability to show "pagesetter" pages, instead of FormExpress only (as it is now) is definetely something worthwhile.

All in all - I would definetely be interested in talking collaboration - also some with ?ivind Skau (PagEd Author) and whomever is interested, so we could collaborate more, and thus more quickly get some results. If nothing else, idea sharing and someone to talk about, in regards to ways to implement features/find bugs is always a big plus.

Can you point me to where I can download these two packages?

Thanks,

--zbert

Hi,

I thought you might be interested in the way I have combined forms express and pagesetter.

In this example template I am displaying a formexpress form inside a pagesetter template. Below is a pagesetter template for a contact form. pnModFunc is used to display the form express form.



The style classes don't make sense because I was too lazy to create a specific class so re-used styles for a feature story.

In my site I have this displaying in a popup. The master.html Xanthia template determines if the contact form is being displayed and prevents all the normal page headers footrers and menus from being displayed. Javascript is used in that template to show the form as a popup in a sized window.

Regards,

Graeme

Nice. a link to your site to see it in action?

zbert: http://contrib.virkpaanettet.dk is where feproc & Formexpress can be dl'ed.

Have a look at
http://www.prop…ub&tid=3&pid=6

Click on the "Contact" link at the bottom of the profile page. This will popup the contact form that is embedded in a pagesetter template.

This is a website that I developed and maintain for the Small Business Network that my wife founded.

Enjoy!

Graeme

I find this topic very interesting. Imagine the power of a document processor like Pagesetter and database front end that FormExpress can be. Then it would be just a step to a survey package far more powerful and flexible than pnESP.

However, MrMutley, I get "Unknown Publication" when I click on "Contact Roderick Storie"

i used Feproc and FormExpress with PageSetter.
It's a powerfull solution for complexe workflow system.

The Urgent action workflow for amnesty is :
Master users write several petitions modeles.
Users choice a petition and could changed the content of the letters.
The process is managed by FeProc.
Test are done for the distribution canal ( mail, fax, letter) with price critere.
Each canal has is own format controled and changed by feproc.
Each petition is stocked ( in one other Pagesetter database)
for stats analysies
The next step is to implement a tracking service for informing amnesty members about the result of their actions. (42 % of urgent actions have good issues)

the difficulty was the lack a documentation and communIty for feproc

That is the reason why I haven't done anything with that combination yet. But I have the intention that it would help people to make pagesetter easier to use for their authors/communities.

Maybe pagesetter.org can help to make the system more popular. I don't know, if that is possible, but pagesetter already generates templates - could there be a way to also generate everything that is needed for a feproc form?

the lack of documentation is what keeps me from using feproc and formexpress too.
though i'll have to look at it at some point to create an online registration setup.

as far as i can see, pagestter.org is going to provide some infos about this topic.
if ljvd could add his knwoledge to that site, that would be really cool.
the amnesty-setup sounds pretty interesting.

i want to implement last versions of pagesetter and feproc for december.
but i wait a stable version of postnuke 0.76 before beginning.
With a global reinstall and some improvements, i would be able to provide a good doc.

excuse my poor english, my french is better :-)

Well I've tried to use FormExpress, FEProc and pagesetter with the default sample provided in the manual of pagesetter, but couldn't get that simple sample to work.

I intend to use it to store the "signup form for developers" in pagesetter. If you want to give it a try contact me using the contact form on http://www.pagesetter.org . If you get it to work I'm willing to document the things you did so everybody can learn from it.

- I don't know if Klavs maintain the code now ...
- Sourceforge content is not updated
- i've find http://contrib.…s.postnuke.com

So i'm not sure to used FeProc in the futur ...
i keep an eye on Galaxia ( based on OpenFlow.it) http://tikiwiki…alaxiaWorkflow
the most advanced Workflow process using php ...
cvs have not been changed since 8 month ...

If somebody begin the a similar project, pm me

I haven't used feproc with 0.76 yet - but can anybody confirm, that it works for them with v0.75 but not with 0.76 - and be specific about what doesn't work in the new version? I have seen no reports in the forum at contrib.virkpaanettet.dk that points to any problems with 0.76 (but I could be blind :)

What are your current problems - have you written on the forum at contrib.virkpaanettet.dk? I don't think there's anyone unanswered... but otherwise write again, and I'll find the time when I can (or perhaps someone else will :)